Friday, October 25, 2024

Robert Garcia on Bam Rodriguez

Robert Garcia has been with Jesse Rodriguez almost from the beginning. The renown trainer brought Jesse to his gym when the fighter was just 15. Immediately, Garcia recognized "Bam" Rodriguez's profound talent. From the footwork to the punch variety to the poise, Rodriguez stood out even in a gym full of great fighters. 

Rodriguez (20-0, 13 KOs) defends his junior bantamweight world title on November 9th against Pedro Guevara (42-4-1, 22 KOs) in Philadelphia. 2024 has already seen Bam stop the legendary Juan Estrada, but he did taste the canvas for the first time in his professional career during that fight. Should Bam get past Guevara, he is looking to become undisputed at 115 lbs. in 2025. 

I spoke with Robert Garcia about his relationship with Bam, Bam's development as a fighter, the Estrada fight, and what Bam needs to continue to work on in the gym. 

Jesse "Bam" Rodriguez and Robert Garcia
Photo courtesy of Robert Garcia

This interview has been edited. 

How did you initially meet Jesse?

We first met when he was 11 or 12. I was training Nonito Donaire and we had a fight in San Antonio. Jesse jumped in the ring with Donaire to do some shadowboxing. So, we met and took a picture. But nothing happened there. 

In 2016, his older brother, Joshua Franco, came out of the amateurs. My son told me about Franco and Hector Tanajara from San Antonio and he said that they were very good fighters. So, we went to San Antonio and approached them. And we signed them with Golden Boy Promotions. 

Franco told me, you know I have a little brother and that he is pretty good.  Joshua reminded me that we had met Bam a few years ago. And on his recommendation, we brought Bam to California to train with us. Bam was 15.  

What did you see from Bam that immediately impressed you? 

His talent. His skills. His footwork really meant a lot to me. I love fighters with great footwork. One of my favorite fighters was Orlando Canizales. I used to love his footwork. I tried to do a little of his footwork when I was fighting. 

Bam was beautiful at what he did and from day one. We knew that this kid was going to be special. 

Let’s talk about his footwork. It's very purposeful. It’s not just moving for the sake of moving. It’s subtle shifts in the pocket, finding angles to land shots. How did he discover that ability, because that's a very unusual skill set for a young fighter? 

That’s true. But that’s something natural that he has. Obviously, it’s something that he practices a lot in the gym, in training and in sparring. We asked him to keep using that footwork and then take those steps to convert a good hook or a good uppercut. It was adding a little bit to his talent. It’s something that we continue to practice every day and I think that’s why he's getting better and better. 

You have a strong gym culture at the Robert Garcia Boxing Academy. I’m sure that Jesse wanted to fight the top guys when he got there, but I'm also sure that you had to protect him a little bit in that he was just 16. What was the process like for preparing him for the pros? 

We had to be careful with who he was sparring with at 15 and 16 because he was just a kid. He didn’t turn pro until 17. He could make anybody look bad, but we still had to be careful because of the strength of the grown men at the gym. He was always a small kid. We turned him pro at 108 and he was very, very small. We couldn’t find any pros in my gym who were his size, so he always sparred with younger kids, the amateurs, stuff like that. 

You are on record years ago as saying that he was already the best fighter in the gym. How was that received by other fighters in your gym and what was your thought process behind saying that publicly?

Obviously, I have guys who are bigger names because of the weight classes, Vergil Ortiz, Jose Ramirez, people like that. I have Jose Valenzuela who just became champion. The weight divisions do make a big difference. 

But when it comes talent, this kid is just special. These other guys are incredible. But Jesse is just different. Every fighter in the gym knows it. He’s the special one. 

What have you been working on to develop from when he turned pro until now? 

It’s reminding him what we’ve been working on. I don’t have to correct too much. I don’t have to teach him too much. A lot of it is just natural. It’s not really about teaching him. It’s just reminding him that he’s the best, that nobody is better than you. It’s just working at the gym every day. 

Was there a point during Bam's development when you knew he was ready for the world level? 

I don’t think there was a particular time or fight where I knew he was ready. I think it was from the beginning. When he started his career as a professional, I knew that it would happen soon. I didn’t think it would take that long. I didn’t think we would need 30 professional fights to get there. Especially fighting at the smaller weight classes, it wouldn't take that long. 

The kid was so talented. The plan was for him to become champion originally at 108. He was scheduled to fight for the title on my brother Mikey’s card against Sandor Martin. But that fight fell through. And then two months later, we got a call from Matchroom asking us if Jesse was crazy enough to jump two divisions to fight Carlos Cuadras. And I said, yes, he’s ready. And the rest is history. 

In that there aren’t a lot of great 108, 112, or even 115-lb. fighters in America, has it been difficult getting him quality sparring?

In my gym I have guys in every weight class all the way to 160 and 168. I don’t have a lot of guys at 108, but I have a lot of top guys at the smaller weights, so he gets a lot of good sparring. We are also sparring junior featherweights and featherweights, and he has no problems sparring those guys.

A few years ago, Bam was on a great run, beating Carlos Cuadras and knocking out Srisaket Sor Rungvisai. Then he had fights with Israel and Cristian Gonzalez where things didn’t go his way at times and he seemed frustrated at points. What were the learning experiences from the two Gonzalez fights? 

We have to be careful about taking fights that don’t interest Bam. The Israel Gonzalez fight, the one on the Canelo card, he didn’t want that fight. I thought after knocking out Sor Rungvisai that it would be the perfect opportunity to be the co-main event to Canelo, but he didn’t want it. That didn’t motivate him, especially against a guy that nobody really knew. 

So, now we’ve learned that for him to perform, to mentally prepare himself to give his best in the ring, he has to have a meaningful fight. He told me before his last fight, before Estrada was confirmed, that if it’s not El Gallo [Estrada] next, then he didn’t want to fight. We already had a date for him, but he said if it wasn’t El Gallo then he was going to sit out until the right fight came along. 

This fight coming up, against Guevara, he has to take the fight because it’s his mandatory and the WBC could potentially strip him if he doesn’t fight. All he wants to do is unify. The other champions aren’t available right now. We had to take this fight. But he wants meaningful fights. The plan next year is for two fights. And he wants it to be against the two champions at 115 lbs. 

As mandatories go, Pedro Guevara is a very good fighter. He’s had four losses during his career and all have been by split or majority decision. He’s very smart in the ring. He never beats himself. What are your thoughts about him? 

I think Guevara’s a great fighter. He puts up a good fight. And that’s why Bam is training hard. In Bam’s mind, he wants to become undisputed next year. That’s his goal, so he’s taking this fight very seriously. I think Guevara will put up a great fight and he will bring the best out of Jesse. 

Let’s go back to the Estrada fight. Bam did a lot of good things that night. He had that memorable knockout with the uppercut in the seventh round. But he did get knocked down in the fight. What were your overall impressions of his performance against Estrada? 

Going into the fight, I thought that it was going to be more difficult than what it turned out to be. I think Estrada’s experience and beautiful skills and style…I thought the fight was going to be more difficult and challenging. But from round one, I noticed the domination. Bam was having fun. 

But he was being a little careless after he dropped Estrada in the fourth. I kept reminding him during one of the breaks, after the fifth, I said you can’t get too careless. This guy is still dangerous. This guy has experience. And then when the bell rang for the sixth, that’s when he got dropped. 

He wasn’t hurt. He looked at me and smiled. And after the bell rang in the sixth, I said, what did I tell you? He said, you were right. I said, that’s OK. Don’t get careless because he’s very good in the later rounds. 

And we still had half the fight to go. Good thing he knocked him out in the seventh because we had so much of the fight left. It could have been different, where Estrada’s experience could have become a big factor. 

Were you concerned about the knockdown? 

No. Right away I saw the way he smiled. The way he looked at us. He laughed. I wasn’t concerned at all. I remember when my brother [Mikey] was knocked down by Rocky Martinez. He got up and looked at me and smiled. It was one of those times. These things happen. It’s a good thing that it happened to Bam, because he had never been dropped. Now he’s gotten dropped and he knows what it feels like. 

What are some of the things that you are working on with Jesse for him to become the best version of himself in the ring?

We are working on his defense, his reflexes. When it comes to making his opponents miss, there are some punches that still land. Especially for Guevara, who has seen Bam’s last fight against El Gallo, I’m not saying they have the same style, but they are both right-handed and Guevara has seen the right hand that landed and dropped Bam. So, I’m sure he’s going to look for that right hand. 

Not that Bam gets hit with a lot of punches, but when he gets a little too careless, a little too comfortable, he doesn’t worry about making his opponents miss. So, we are working on that and we continue to work on that every day. 

Adam Abramowitz is the founder and head writer of saturdaynightboxing.com
He's a contributing writer for Ring Magazine, a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Panel, the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the Boxing Writers Association of America.
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Sunday, October 13, 2024

Opinions and Observations: Beterbiev-Bivol

After Saturday's Artur Beterbiev-Dmitry Bivol match, which was more interesting than exciting, neither fighter seemed too pleased with his performance. Beterbiev, who was awarded the victory by majority decision, claimed that he didn't box particularly well, which is important because the fight primarily featured boxing instead of brawling or power displays. Bivol might have thought that he won, but he was resigned to accepting the judges' scores. He understood how tough the fight was. 

I scored the fight a draw. That's how it played out round-by-round on my scorecard and I thought that the draw reflected the action (or inaction) of the entire fight. To me the match was a perfect example of a stalemate, where neither fighter was able to assert himself on a consistent-enough basis. 

Beterbiev (right) and Bivol exchanging
Photo courtesy of Mikey Williams/Top Rank

But this will not be a rant at the scores, which were 114-114, 115-113 and 116-112, with the latter two scores favoring Beterbiev, who became the "undisputed" light heavyweight champion with the win. I used the quotes in the previous sentence because technically Beterbiev is undisputed now, but I'm certainly not sure that he won Saturday's fight.

The bout featured plenty of swing rounds, ones were not a ton happened (the third round) and others that had consequential action from both (the seventh). A whole range of scores were acceptable in scoring the fight, but I would have preferred it if more rounds contained real drama, instead of the familiar "someone had to win it" refrain. 

I was surprised by the tactics of both, and not necessarily in a positive way. I thought that Beterbiev was a little too slow to start applying pressure. At 39, he fought like he had some concerns with his gas tank. Although he was the fighter who closed stronger, that might be because he really conserved energy in the fight's first half. And I will have none of the talk that he paced himself perfectly, because when the final scores were announced, I don't believe that he could confidently believe that he won. That there was doubt speaks to the questionable success of his tactics. 

To Bivol's credit or detriment, he fought far more aggressively than I expected. Until the championship rounds, he spent almost as much of the fight on the front foot as he did in retreat. In fact, Bivol might have paid the price for being too aggressive. When he finally unloaded with gripping combinations, he often found a hard counter shot in return that stopped him in his tracks. I think in particular that happened in the 7th and 10th rounds. 

In a theme that appears often in boxing, the fighter who was more aggressive was given a lot of credit, irrespective of how effective he was. Beterbiev was clearly the one who came forward on a more consistent basis in the final three rounds. I thought that the 10th was a toss-up which I shaded to Bivol, but I had Beterbiev winning 11 and 12. That was the difference between drawing and losing on my card, and it was decisive for the judges, who favored Beterbiev down the stretch. Yes, each round does count the same, but in terms of the broader narrative of the fight, there can be no doubt that Beterbiev was the fresher fighter at the conclusion of the match. He had an extra level at the end, where Bivol did not.

Overall, I was a little disappointed in the fight. I was looking for one of the fighters to make a definitive statement and absent that, I was hoping for some thrilling action, but that didn't really happen either, with the exception of a pulsating seventh round. Beterbiev played it a little too safe in my opinion and Bivol was a little too weary by the end of the fight.  

Furthermore, there were few singular moments to remember from the fight. Yes, Bivol had some instances where he landed blistering left hook-straight right-hand combinations and Beterbiev had a couple of thudding counter right uppercuts and right hands, but there was little carnage, few periods of mastery, and a lot of tentative moments from both. 

The two fighters tangling on the inside
Photo courtesy of Mikey Williams/Top Rank

Although I have admired the championship reigns of Beterbiev and Bivol, Saturday's fight felt anti-climactic for me. I can't say that Beterbiev is the definitive light heavyweight of his era. But I also can't buy into Bivol's superior technical brilliance, especially how he faded in a fight that was mostly a boxing match. Although he is the first opponent to go the distance with Beterbiev, I'm guessing that moral victory doesn't feel particularly sweet for Bivol. For someone who has prided himself on being a champion, he certainly didn't close like a champ. And he left enough openings for the score to be in doubt.  

Bivol's defense was still very good on the night, but getting hit with 20% or so of Beterbiev's shots (which is still a very low connect percentage) is not the same as getting hit with someone else's 20%. Bivol somehow needed to be even sharper. 

Surprisingly, Beterbiev's speed wasn't a big disadvantage. He was able to get in range enough. But he rarely landed his best power shots. It seems that he made a clear decision to rely on touch shots that sacrificed power for speed. Despite the victory, Beterbiev didn't look like the big bad wolf in the ring. He did have Bivol on the run at the end of the fight and that did help him win it, but he didn't have too many signature moments. The judges felt that he was a little more consistent throughout the fight. You or I may not believe that, but that's less important right now. He struggled. He persevered. Some felt he had done just enough. 

At 39 and overcoming a slew of recent injuries, I wouldn't expect Beterbiev to be back in the ring anytime soon. And I don't think that he has too many big fights left. When the pressure fighter can't do it for 12 rounds, when the power puncher isn't having the same effect that he used to, the signs of decline may soon become even more apparent. And Beterbiev's aura has been a vital part of his success. His relentlessness has caused many opponents to make mistakes, to burn out, or to help in defeating themselves. If his intimidation factor has lessened, that can only embolden opponents. 

As for Bivol, he certainly has years ahead of him at the top levels of boxing, but I don't think that his speed on Saturday was what it once was either. The guy who defanged Canelo controlled the ring far better than the fighter who was in the ring on Saturday. And Beterbiev is many things, but he is not faster on his feet than Canelo, nor does he have faster hands. Yet Bivol struggled more on Saturday. Size does matter and so does Beterbiev's talent, but I can only remember a handful of big shots that Canelo landed whereas Beterbiev scored with shots more frequently. That Beterbiev was even in range points to a deficiency from Bivol; either his tactics were off, or his speed has lessened. In a perfect world, I don't think that Bivol wanted as many exchanges as what happened on Saturday. 

With so many high-profile fights this year, and others that have featured superior entertainment value, I won't dwell on Beterbiev-Bivol for too long. I will applaud both for making it happen. It was a consequential matchup, one of the best that could have been made in the sport, but the quality of the fight didn't rival its importance. I wanted Saturday to be a confirmation of greatness, but it turned out to be too risk-averse from both. So perhaps two great fighters neutralized the other. This potential reality always existed; it's just not what the public wanted to see. 

To me, this remains the Beterbiev and Bivol era. And if they want to settle it for good, that's fine. And if not, we will move on. They tried. They didn't fully succeed. That's the sport too. They both did some great things in the ring on Saturday, but it wasn't enough from this vantage point. Neither fully sold out for the win. They didn't leave it all in the ring. And however history remembers them, that fact should not be forgotten. 

Adam Abramowitz is the founder and head writer of saturdaynightboxing.com
He's a contributing writer for Ring Magazine, a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Panel, the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the Boxing Writers Association of America.
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Monday, October 7, 2024

Beterbiev-Bivol: Preview and Prediction

The most significant light heavyweight fight in generations takes place on Saturday between Artur Beterbiev (20-0, 20 KOs) and Dmitry Bivol (23-0, 12 KOs) in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The fight will be for undisputed status at 175 lbs. and the winner will emerge on the shortlist as one of the best of his time. For the last truly undisputed light heavyweight in the sport, we'd have to go back all the way to Michael Spinks in the '80s, so the winner of Saturday's fight will be in rarified air.   

Perfect Opponents 

If you were to draw up a hypothetical perfect opponent to beat Dmitry Bivol, Arthur Beterbiev would be as close to ideal as possible. Beterbiev, with the 100% knockout rate, does not need to land a lot of shots to stop fighters, which is important because Bivol doesn't get hit frequently. Similarly, Beterbiev is not reliant on one specific punch, which makes it tougher for Bivol to gear his defense to protecting himself against a lone knockout weapon. And if Beterbiev can get someone hurt, he can close. Bivol has been hurt before by Joe Smith and hit with enormous shots by Canelo Alvarez, but he was never close to being stopped. If anyone can stop Bivol at 175 lbs., Beterbiev is the guy. 

The converse of this matchup is also true. Bivol is the perfect type of fighter to beat Beterbiev. He has exceptional feet and is faster on the outside than Beterbiev. He can score with shots and can get out of range well. He has a terrific jab that allows him to win rounds while minimizing risk. Perhaps most importantly, Bivol has the temperament to face a relentless slugger like Beterbiev; he doesn't care if he stinks a fight out. Bivol isn't concerned with wowing the crowd. He is there to win and he will try to accomplish that by any means necessary. He's not in the business of giving his opponents a lot of shots at him and he's not interested in trading. He's there to land and leave. 

Beterbiev (left) and Bivol face-off at the kickoff presser
Photo courtesy of Queensbury Promotions

Beterbiev's Age 

On fight night Beterbiev will be 39 years old, six years older than Bivol. 39 is old in boxing, but not necessarily disqualifying, especially at the higher weights. Archie Moore was light heavyweight champion at 45. Bernard Hopkins was champ at 49. And another point in Beterbiev's favor is the relatively small number of professional rounds that he's had. He still hasn't hit 100 professional rounds (just 98). Compare that to Bivol, who even at a significantly younger age, has almost 100 more pro rounds (190). So just how much is age a factor in the fight?  

Despite Beterbiev's expert ability to make quick work of his opponents, I believe that it would be a mistake to consider him well-preserved. Beterbiev has dropped out of or delayed several fights over the past five years, including this one. Recent physical issues have involved his knee, his jaw and his shoulder. These are the types of things that happen as fighters age; they start to break down. Beterbiev enters this match after fighting in January, which for him is a lot of activity. This will be his first time fighting twice in a calendar year since 2021. In his last five years he has had the following number of fights: 0, 2, 1, 1 and now 2. It's possible for fighters to get old overnight, especially ones who are inactive and have had recent injuries.   

Each Has a Lost Art 

If there are two frustrations I have with modern boxers in the ring, it's that so few can fight effectively on the inside and hardly anyone knows how to stink a fight out and win. In this fight, Beterbiev (the former) and Bivol (the latter) really understand these dynamics of the sport. In close, Beterbiev varies the pace and power of his shots. He'll mix in touch shots with massive artillery. He goes to the body and the head. He knows how to position his body to get throwing angles while minimizing those of his opponents. In the trenches, his footwork is often terrific.  

And Bivol will try his very best to ensure that none of those attributes from Beterbiev will manifest in the fight. He has the agility to move for 12 rounds and even if he's not throwing or taking a round off, he knows not to put himself at risk. Now there are many opponents who can minimize risk but not necessarily win their big fights. However, Bivol not only wins fights, but they are rarely close. Although Bivol has won tons of decisions in his fights, I don't think that any of them were undeserved. Yes, he faded late against Craig Richards and had to deal with Canelo's magnetism as it relates to judges, but I don't think that those fights were ever in serious doubt with an unbiased set of eyes. If Bivol needs to fight negatively, he can, and can still win. 

The Key Factor

The fight doesn't start, in my opinion, until Beterbiev can hurt Bivol. Up to that point, I would expect Bivol to win rounds based on volume, hand speed and ring generalship. It's not that Beterbiev is a bad boxer, not by any means. In fact, he has been mischaracterized as a one-dimensional slugger for far too long. Beterbiev possesses several tremendous boxing attributes. He can lead and counter. He can hurt an opponent with several weapons. His body shots are pulverizing. He has a counter right hook to the side of the head that seems to land on everyone. Although his foot speed has been criticized, he can cut off the ring really well. He can also expertly turn opponents on the ropes.  

And although all of the above is true, he just isn't the boxer that Bivol is. The speed advantage is real in this fight. But it's not just about athleticism, Bivol knows how to control the ring with his movements. He glides effortlessly. He can go laterally either way, circle, or move in and out. He doesn't need to plant his feet to land punches and he rarely sticks around after throwing. He's one of the most elusive fighters in this era.  

I just don't see Beterbiev beating Bivol by out-boxing him. But Beterbiev can certainly turn the tide with a boxing move. That practiced counter right hook could be the shot. Maybe it will be his sledgehammer jab. Boxing won't win Beterbiev the fight, but it may be the entry point for him to do so. 

If and when Beterbiev hurts Bivol, then we will see all we need to know about Bivol's recuperative powers and if Beterbiev can finish an opponent as hard to find as Bivol. The only frame of reference is Bivol in the Joe Smith fight, where Bivol was hurt late in that fight at the end of a round. He needed more than a round to recover his bearings. But Smith just couldn’t land the final blow. And in truth, despite having a rocked opponent in front of him, Smith didn't get close. Beterbiev is certainly more well-rounded offensively than Smtih, and he will need to be to get Bivol down and possibly out.   

Prediction: 

This fight could certainly go many ways, but I can't get past the fact that Bivol doesn't care about style points. That's the singular attribute that makes me side with him in this matchup. It's not that he knows how to stink out a fight; it's that he has a willingness to do so. The crowd booing won't bother him one bit.  

I would certainly hate a sport that had 15 champions who all knew how to stink out a fight against a top opponent, but I can definitely appreciate one champ who can and will. There's a beauty in it. Floyd was great at it. So was Hopkins. They won fights that often weren't in doubt and yet sometimes it would be a challenge to recall any memorable punches that they landed. Their level of control was that comprehensive. I believe that Bivol is in this category.  

But even the great Floyd and the great Hopkins had rough nights, fights they could have lost, and with Hopkins, fights that he did lose. Every style can be gotten to. Every fighter can be beaten. So even as I marvel at Bivol's athleticism, technical prowess and grace in the ring, he's a short, clubbing right hand away from being Beterbiev's 21st KO victim. And let's never forget that the risk Beterbiev presents in this fight will be real in every second of the match. Bivol cannot make too many mistakes and expect to win.  

I think that Bivol will win by decision, but he will have to survive one or two moments of genuine peril, and those moments will make for a riveting fight. Beterbiev is too skilled to go 12 rounds without landing something consequential. I just don't know if he has the speed to capitalize on those moments. It's one thing landing something big on Bivol, but can Beterbiev find the right combination of shots to get Bivol out of the fight? I have my concerns. It's certainly possible that Bivol hits the canvas on Saturday, but I do expect him to hear the final bell. Let's say that Bivol wins 10 rounds to 2 or 9 rounds to 3, but no one will regret watching the fight.  

Dmitry Bivol defeats Artur Beterbiev via wide decision. 10 rounds to 2 or 9 rounds to 3. 

Adam Abramowitz is the founder and head writer of saturdaynightboxing.com
He's a contributing writer for Ring Magazine, a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Panel, the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the Boxing Writers Association of America.
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Sunday, September 22, 2024

Opinions and Observations: Joshua-Dubois

Daniel Dubois entered the ring on Saturday determined to put Anthony Joshua on the defensive. In a bold strategic shift from his past notable fights, Dubois immediately pressed the action. He didn't just dip his toe in the water; there was no feeling out process. He marched forward behind his jab and power punches.  

Dubois and his trainer Don Charles prepared a game plan that sought to exploit Joshua's potential weaknesses and minimize Dubois' own shortcomings. Joshua had often started fights cautiously; that could be taken advantage of. In addition, Dubois hadn't fared well when he had started with caution. Before aligning with Charles, Dubois had been dropped by Kevin Lerena in the first round, picked apart by Oleksandr Usyk early in their fight and struggled at mid-range with Joe Joyce's jab. Even in recent victories with Charles in the corner, he had been outhustled by Jarrell Miller in the early rounds and he had absorbed dozens of big right hands by Filip Hrgovic. 

Dubois (standing) knocking down Joshua
Photo courtesy of Mark Robinson (Matchroom)

Thus, Charles and Dubois selected a bold strategy on Saturday: they would go right at Anthony Joshua, despite AJ's considerable heavyweight power. They were determined for Dubois to make his own luck; there was no use waiting around for something bad to happen. And the gambit was immediately effective. By the end of the first round, Dubois had knocked down Joshua with a whipping right hand. Joshua was hurt badly and was never the same during the rest of the fight.  

Ultimately Dubois would stop Joshua in the fifth round, scoring four knockdowns in the fight, including a pulverizing left during a combination in the third round and a counter right hook in the fifth that ended the match.  

That Dubois won as a sizable underdog was shocking enough, but how he went about it – bludgeoning Joshua over five rounds, a comprehensive beating – was something more; it was startling and thrilling. Joshua had been beaten before, but no one had wiped the floor with him like this. Even the great Usyk couldn't get him on the canvas. Remember, in Joshua's prior knockout loss to Andy Ruiz, it was Joshua who had scored the first knockdown in the fight.  

And for whatever criticisms that one could levy on Joshua during the fight, it was Dubois who forced those shortcomings to manifest. If Dubois hadn't been determined to counter Joshua's jab with hard right hands, then Joshua may have gotten away with throwing a lazy jab early in the fight. If Dubois didn't insist on pushing the pace in the fight, then Joshua's ponderous movement may have been far less of a problem. 

Furthermore, by the end of the first, Joshua was already a diminished fighter. The hard right hand that had dropped him had caused serious damage. And his body started to give out by the third round after the right uppercut/left hand combination just before the knockdown.  

It's certainly possible that if Joshua was given time to establish his preferred work rate and distance that the fight could have worked out in his favor. But Dubois never allowed him to have any comfort in the fight. Even during Joshua's best moments in the fight, the hard right hands in the fifth round, it took only one more big shot for Dubois to end the match. That's how damaged Joshua was. He could not beat the count in the fifth; he had taken too much punishment.  

There are lots of other notable aspects about Dubois' performance: the crispness of his jab; his varied punch arsenal that included left hooks, right uppercuts, and straight and looping right hands; his ability to defend himself against Joshua's jab. But ultimately, what won him the fight for me was the boldness of his gameplan and his execution of it. Yes, he was much sharper defensively than in previous fights. Yes, his countering ability has improved tremendously under Charles (this was their fourth fight together). And all of that is fine and dandy. But it was the belief that was most important to me. This was a young fighter who had finally overcome his losses, who now had the confidence to perform at his highest level.  

Through Dubois' defeats and comeback fights, he had learned a lot about himself. He realized that he could take big punches. Against Miller and Hrgovic, he now grasped that he had the chin and the power to win firefights. And even more importantly, he now knew that he could reverse the tide in a fight. Even if he was losing or getting hit with big shots, that didn't mean the fight was forever lost.  

Whereas Dubois was unwilling to sell out for the win after hurting Usyk (low blow or not), against Joshua, Dubois would not be denied. This was his moment. He was going to step on the gas and not let the opportunity fall through his fingers. And even when Joshua had success in the fifth, Dubois was still thinking about offense, how to place that one final blow. He wasn't spooked by Joshua's big punches. Ultimately, he realized that they presented him with an opportunity, and he took it! 

Dubois after the victory
Photo courtesy of Mark Robinson (Matchroom)

The unlikely story of Dubois' rise in boxing is a reminder that fighters can make significant improvements after losses, even knockouts. Dubois made wholesale changes after his second defeat. He improved technically with his punching form and his defense. But most importantly, he had matured in the ring psychologically. He could now deal with duress. He wasn't afraid of a big shot. He had the confidence to overcome scary moments. He believed in his power and ability.  

Dubois ultimately emerged from those dark places as a better version of himself in the ring. But he had been willing to do the work. He had reflected on what had caused him to fall short and he let this evaluation process lead him to new paths in his career.  

The effect of these changes was evident on Saturday He would no longer be intimidated by who was across the ring from him. He would not allow his opponents too much respect. He would keep his poise. Finally...he belonged.

And in the see-saw of Anthony Joshua's career (and let's not dismiss the chance of another comeback from him), AJ was once again on Saturday at the bottom. It was one of those fights where it all went wrong for him. He never had a chance to establish a rhythm or work his way into the fight. His opponent had outthought and outfought him.  

Although Joshua had looked good in his recent fights with trainer Ben Davison, he had predictable patterns in his career when facing punchers. He didn't like to be pressed early in fights and he didn't want to be in firefights. He liked control. And he had not been ready to assert his control in round one against Dubois. He had expected Dubois to be more cautious, that they would both see their way into the fight. And his whole team was unprepared for what followed. 

I keep going back to the "making your own luck" concept. This was the key to the fight for me. By being assertive from the opening bell, Dubois never allowed Joshua to gain a foothold. But Dubois had laid the groundwork for his success years earlier. He assessed his problems objectively. He found solutions. As a result, he was able to ascend to a new level physically, technically, and emotionally in the ring. He had manifested these changes. Against Joshua, he was now ready for anyone in the heavyweight division. And he proved it.  

Adam Abramowitz is the founder and head writer of saturdaynightboxing.com
He's a contributing writer for Ring Magazine, a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Panel, the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the Boxing Writers Association of America.
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Tuesday, September 10, 2024

Can Jared Anderson Still Be Heavyweight Champ?

I was pleasantly surprised when it was announced that undefeated American heavyweight prospect Jared Anderson agreed to fight Martin Bakole on August 3rd. To my eyes, Bakole represented a significant step up in class, with solid victories over Sergey Kuzmin, Tony Yoka and Carlos Takam. He also was a real puncher (15 KOs in 21 fights).  

Anderson himself possessed heavy hands, with 15 stoppages in 17 fights. And he displayed several dimensions not often found with young heavyweights. He could punch from both stances and his commitment to the body was praiseworthy. 

But there were some red flags with Anderson along the way. He had already shown to be susceptible to getting hit with big shots, specifically from Jerry Forrest and Charles Martin. Perhaps more worrisome was that Anderson didn't respond particularly well after getting tagged. Against Forrest, Anderson got hit right after the opening bell by a big left hand. He then went on tilt, throwing well over 100 punches in the round, often leaving himself vulnerable for additional big shots. Against Martin, Anderson had a round late in the fight where he looked like a deer in the headlights after absorbing Martin's lead lefts. He didn't really know what to do.   

I viewed the Anderson-Bakole matchup as a true 50/50 battle, with Anderson having significant athleticism advantages but Bakole having a clearer ring identify and far more valuable experience. However, as we were reminded during the fight, bouts that look even on paper often don't play out that way in the ring. By the end of the first round, Bakole had floored Anderson with a pulverizing uppercut. In the fifth, Bakole dropped Anderson two more times, with a one-two combination, and then with another uppercut. The fight didn't make it to the sixth. 

Anderson did have some decent moments in the fight, especially through the early portions of the first round and in the third. However, there can be no doubt that he got sucked into Bakole's fight. For all of Anderson's athletic gifts, he rarely used them in the bout. Despite showing considerable boxing skills during his developmental fights, Anderson tried to beat Bakole in a battle of machismo. It's also clear that he didn't respect Bakole enough. He had the legs to make the bout far more tactical, but he wasn't interested in making that statement; instead, he made another. 

Photo courtesy of Mikey Williams/Top Rank

Although only 24, Anderson has had considerable hype throughout his professional career. Hard-punching, athletic American heavyweights no longer just grow on trees. His collection of skills deserved special attention. In addition, as one of Tyson Fury's chief sparring partners, Anderson had given Fury great work over the years with Fury often praising the young upstart, believing that he was destined for greatness.

But Anderson also exhibited concerning behavior out of the ring. He once admitted that he was looking forward to leaving the sport, an odd thing to say for a fighter far away from the top of the division. He had a recent arrest for leading police in a high-speed chase. He also had already played the coaching carousel a number of times, cycling through a handful of trainers and constantly making additions and deletions to his team. None of this is the type of fighter you want to necessarily bet the house on. 

Now it's time for Andreson to pick up the pieces of his career. If he rededicates himself to the sport there remains a clear pathway to reaching greatness in boxing. I did some digging, and there is precedent in overcoming this type of defeat in the heavyweight division. 

Believe it or not, in the last 50 years there have been at least 13 fighters who have gotten knocked out in the fifth round or earlier of a non-title bout who would later become a heavyweight champion. That number surprised me. So, here's the list, and I won't pretend it is fully complete. It also calls into consideration the WBO and when it should be regarded as a major belt. Nevertheless, the names are: 

Buster Douglas, Chris Byrd, Shannon Briggs, Bermane Stiverne, Mike Weaver, Bonecrusher Smith, Trevor Berbick, John Ruiz, Michael Bentt, Bruce Seldon, Corrie Sanders, Oleg Maskaev and David Haye. 

Well, that's a motley collection of fighters. Among them are those who had memorable runs in the sport (Haye and Byrd) and others who are little more than trivia (Seldon, Maskaev). But here is what I found most interesting about the list: 

Only one from the list became lineal heavyweight champion (Buster Douglas). What that means is that with a lone exception, if a heavyweight gets knocked out that early in a non-title fight, he's not going to become the best in the division. The fighters on this list were good enough to win titles but, excepting Douglas, they lacked a certain something to become the best. 

The early-round, early-fight knockout loss and the inability to become the best in the division is not coincidental. I think it's telling. Think about why a guy might get knocked out early in a fight: his defense isn't good enough, he doesn't have a good beard, he wasn't taking training seriously, he doesn't have poise in the ring after getting hit with a good shot. 

These early-round knockouts aren't necessarily the same as the ones that occur at the end of fights. These fights weren't wars of attrition or examples of fighters who didn't have the experience in ten- or twelve-round battles. The fighters that get lit-up early are walking red flags for the rest of their career. This doesn't mean a fighter can't become successful, not by any means, but history has shown that after this kind of loss, the ceiling for the future does drop. The expectations won't or shouldn't be quite the same. 

Photo courtesy of Top Rank

But these fighters regrouped, persevered and improved in the ring. They have shown that it can be done. However, now think about the thousands of heavyweights who have been knocked out in the fifth round or earlier in their development fights. Most we have never heard of. Most never made it anywhere near the top. These 13 are exceptions. This cohort does exist, but it represents an unlikely success story.

So, might Jared Anderson become the 14th member of this club? It's still possible. At 24, Anderson has youth on his side. And in particular, this current crop of top heavyweights does skew older. It's tough to imagine how many more big years that Usyk, Fury and Joshua have in the sport. And so many others within the top 15 of the division are on the other side of 30. Furthermore, there doesn't appear to be an incredible group of heavyweights on their way up, just a few interesting ones here and there. Anderson will certainly get opportunities for big fights even if he just bides his time and stays busy in the ring for the next few years. 

But the ultimate question is what does Anderson what? Is he truly committed to the sport? Does he realize that a higher level of focus is needed to reach the top of the division, both in and out of the ring? He still has the Top Rank contract. He will certainly get chances. But will he make the most of them? 

To become #14 Anderson is going to have to face up to some real truths. His chin isn't necessarily an asset. He needs to respect his opponents more. The win is far more important than getting style points. He also needs to find a voice in his corner that he listens to and respects. In addition, he has to settle on a more coherent approach to winning. Yes, he can do lots of things in the ring, but what should he be doing against a given opponent? What's the smartest approach to take? How can he maximize his chance of winning? 

The way back won't be easy for Anderson. He fights in a contemporary boxing environment that can be unforgiving for losses. But look at Joshua, look at Dubois. Their stories aren't exactly like Anderson's, but both rebounded from knockout losses to get world titles (Dubois was recently elevated). It can be done. But does Anderson really want to do it? Is boxing in his blood or a means to an end? Now we get to find out what Anderson is really made of, both in and out of the ring.

Adam Abramowitz is the founder and head writer of saturdaynightboxing.com
He's a contributing writer for Ring Magazine, a member of the Ring Magazine Ratings Panel, the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, and the Boxing Writers Association of America.
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